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Same-sex Marriage
Marriage vs. ?Civil Union? for Same Sex Couples PDF Print E-mail
Written by Makia   
Monday, 11 May 2009

A Response to the Poll on Lesbian and Gay Rights

Key words:  Lesbian, Gay, Civil Union, Gay Rights, Same Sex Marriage

Description:
Respondents generally supported issues identified as “gay rights,” but they did not support gay marriage.  Regardless of poll results, however, Lesbians and Gays are entitled to all rights provided to citizens and protected by the Constitution.


A poll on gay rights just out today indicates “mixed views” on Lesbian and Gay rights .  Four states have now legalized Lesbian and Gay marriages and several others have legislation pending.  This latest poll was conducted by Quinnipiac University's polling institute .  (April 30, 2009)


Even though the commentary with the poll claims “mixed views,” the survey shows remarkable consistency in the main categories:

56 to 37 percent of those polled support allowing Lesbians and Gays to serve openly in the military.  

55 to 38 percent do not want their state to allow Lesbian and Gay marriages.  

57 to 38 percent support “civil unions.”

53 to 40 percent support allowing same-sex couples to adopt children.

It is encouraging that the numbers show more than 50 percent of the respondents support for three of the four areas defined by the poll as “Gay Issues.”  Still, the opposing percentages are significant.  Based on the poll, it is fair to say that this is a dynamic issue still very much in a state of change and moving toward more positive attitudes.  Such a poll taken 15 or even 10 years ago would probably have been much more negative.

Since President Obama supports lifting the ban on open military service and public opinion is moving toward more support, that issue will probably be resolved in time.  

The marriage issue, however, is mired in heavy emotional baggage and irrational fears whipped up by some religious leaders and pandering politicians seeking a “safe” issue.

For better or worse, marriage is both religious and civil.  Regardless of the law, various churches will, no doubt, decide the issue based on their own beliefs.  It is ridiculous to think that any laws passed in any state, for example, will influence the Pope or the College of Cardinals.  It will probably be a good long time before same sex marriages are legitimized and sanctified by the Catholic Church.

It is equally ridiculous and unsupportable to think that allowing Lesbians and Gays to marry will somehow diminish matrimony between heterosexual couples.  If the value of marriage depends upon who is excluded from participation, then marriage is already severely diminished.

The laws enacted by the individual states, however, are another matter.  Marriage confers upon a couple status and rights not available by any other means.  The specific rights and conditions granted by “civil unions” would not be consistent from one state to another and would not necessarily translate as the same or equal benefits conferred upon married couples by the federal government.  

In fact, if “civil unions” were intended to confer the all rights, benefits, and status of marriage, what would be the point?  Allowing the full benefits of marriage to same sex couples through “civil unions” would then be merely a petulant redundancy.  “Civil Unions” only make sense if they specifically deny some benefits of marriage.  In every context, the concept of “separate but equal” is always a lie.

In addition, it is profoundly inconsistent to oppose same sex marriage and support adoption of children by same sex couples.  This allows the children to have the benefit of parents and a home without the status of family.  It is a profoundly contradictory position.

Surely, it is important to grant both those who adopt children and the children they adopt the status, rights, and protections granted to legally recognized families in the United States.

Finally, at the most fundamental level, this poll and any other poll on this issue is utterly irrelevant.  Civil rights are not and must not ever be determined by popular opinion and not by vote -- not for women, not for any racial or ethnic group, and not for Lesbians and Gays.

Like it or not, Lesbians and Gays are citizens of this country who hold jobs and pay taxes and vote.  Just as all other citizens, they are entitled to all the rights and benefits of citizenship and to all the benefits and protections guaranteed by the Constitution.  That surely must include the right to marry, to adopt children, and to enjoy the full status of family in this society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinnipiac_University

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_re_us/us_gay_rights_poll
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinnipiac_University

Associated Content:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/503247/sharon_fawley.html

Article Link:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1701471/marriage_vs_civil_union_for_same_sex.html?cat=9  

 

 
Statement of Equality PDF Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Tuesday, 17 March 2009

Please print a copy of this statement, which is the National Union of Students Statement of Equality in relation to same-sex marriage.  Collect as many signatures as you can (or simply sign your own name) and then send it off to Robert McClelland (the Federal Attorney General of the Rudd Government).

Five Years After the Ban on Same-Sex Marriage – It’s Time for Equal Rights


In 2004 the Howard Government, with the backing of the Australian Labor Party, introduced the Marriage Act to formally ban equal relationship rights in Australia for same-sex couples.

This ban on same-sex marriage and other relationship rights that flow from the right to marry, formally entrenched the inequality of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Intersex people, before the law.

The Rudd government has insisted on maintaining this ban on equal rights.

Earlier this year the Federal Attorney General of the Rudd Government, Robert McClelland wrote to Australian Marriage Equality, that this discrimination "reflects the widely held view in the community that marriage is between a man and a woman".

Five years after the introduction of the ban on Same-Sex marriage, it is time for this injustice to stop.

A nationwide Galaxy Poll published in June 2007 found that 57% of Australians support Same-Sex marriage. It is time for the Rudd Labor Government to stop making excuses and to repeal the ban on equal relationship rights.

Since the election of the Rudd government there have been many reforms at both a state and federal level that recognise the discrimination that LGBTI people face.

These reforms are welcome, but are still short of full legal equality.

LGBTI people are not second class citizens, and it is time that the Government stops treating us as such.

We, the undersigned groups, organisations, and individuals, endorse this call for equal relationships now – It’s time!

 

 
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